Interview

Can AI tell how you feel?

Andrew Ettinger

CEO, Hume AI

Olya Ossipova

Hume AI

57 minHosted by Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum

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About this conversation

How do you test whether a voice AI understands the way you speak? Kim Isenberg and Peter Thum sit down with Hume AI’s Andrew Ettinger and Olya Ossipova to explore voice AI, emotion, and the challenge of measuring how well a model listens.

The conversation focuses on what a transcript can miss: tone, hesitation, urgency and the context behind someone’s words. They look at Hume’s VoiceEQ benchmark and Kairos evaluation platform, where human judgment remains essential, and the independence questions that arise when a company builds models, evaluates competitors and sells services in the same industry.

Topics

  • What a transcript misses: tone, hesitation and urgency
  • Hume’s VoiceEQ benchmark
  • The Kairos evaluation platform
  • Where human judgment remains essential
  • Evaluating voice models for real customer situations
  • The business and independence of AI evaluation

Chapters

  1. 0:00The limitations of voice AI
  2. 1:14Introduction to Hume AI
  3. 2:22Voice AI as a scene partner
  4. 3:51Engineering emotional intelligence
  5. 5:46Technical evaluation challenges
  6. 8:27Evolution of the Hume platform
  7. 10:57Research-backed development
  8. 13:04Why holistic evaluation matters
  9. 15:41Customized benchmarks for growth
  10. 17:28Grounding evaluations in truth
  11. 19:07Subjective vs. objective metrics
  12. 22:01Operationalizing voice use cases
  13. 25:19VPC and data sovereignty
  14. 26:41The necessity of the platform
  15. 29:15Scalable human expert feedback
  16. 32:37The role of third-party auditing
  17. 33:46Language and dialect complexity
  18. 36:23Designing for uncertainty
  19. 38:22Neutrality in a competitive market
  20. 40:42Voice vs. text development
  21. 43:48Insights from building models
  22. 48:02The future of voice evaluation
  23. 50:47Global trends in language
  24. 53:52Year-ahead expectations

Kim Isenberg is co-founder and Editor-in-Chief of Superintelligence, an AI newsletter published every weekday.

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